You know who is batsh@t crazy?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

CHICKS!!!!

Seriously, WTF?!

I am about ready to bitch slap the majority of my girlfriends for one reason or another.

That is all.

Thank you for letting me vent and for agreeing with me.

[ICThawk]

Preach on

[Joe Norris]

Well, we need examples...but yes, women are crazy

[Jhawkz5]

You don't think we already knew this?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

If I tell you my examples, you will accuse me of being batshit crazy myself for even caring about it.

I am just frustrated for a myriad of reasons that have all come to a head today as we plan a little birthday party this evening for one of my friends. As it stands, I am putting myself through a ton of hassle (and putting my husband through it b/c he will have to pick up the slack tonight).....just so I can make food for this party that none of my friends will probably eat (even though they are begging me to bring the appetizers). They won't eat it b/c three are on a starvation diet (stupid) and one is having major drama and just had a panic attack that required hospitalization (if I told you, you wouldn't even believe the details) and has lost 10 pounds off her already tiny frame in just one week because she won't eat. And the whole reason this birthday honoree wants this party is so that she can bail out at 8pm and go see her boyfriend, b/c her husband is a controlling and abusive ass. So basically she is just using us a front to get out of the house and then is leaving.

Fuck....all I wanted to do was get pedicures with my friends while we have some appetizers and wine and then go out for a beer afterwards.

Women.

[Hawker007]

Wait...what? You are helping your friend have an affair?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

Wait...what? You are helping your friend have an affair?

I didn't know that we were being used as the front til just this morning when I asked my other friend why we had to be done with the pedicure party by 9pm.

And fwiw, I don't really blame her for having an affair. If you knew her husband, you wouldn't either. Her husband is Orthodox Jew and extremely controlling and mean. He is actually aware of this affair but doesn't care as long as she doesn't leave and/or embarrass him. Their marriage is terrible.

Regardless, I decided to not bust my ass making food for the party. I already have all the ingredients but I will just make it on Friday to enjoy during the KU game with my husband. He will actually eat it.

[KVN638]

why doesn't she leave him? How many comedians make fun of women for staying abusive relationships for no reason?

[Jhawkz5]

These are all stupid things to get worked up over. That's like Joe Davis getting worked up over kvn saying mean things on the internet. Just dumb.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

why doesn't she leave him? How many comedians make fun of women for staying abusive relationships for no reason?

Because when you left your career 15 years ago to start a family and haven't worked since, it's a little hard to just leave.

When I say abusive, I don't necessarily mean in the physical sense. He is extremely emotional abusive.

I can't imagine EVER staying with my husband if he said those things to me, but I can't really judge for her not wanting to leave yet either. She will eventually, though. Now that all her kids are in school full time, she is back working at least part time and getting her life together.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

These are all stupid things to get worked up over. That's like Joe Davis getting worked up over kvn saying mean things on the internet. Just dumb.

I am not "worked up". Just frustrated. Mostly because it's a pattern.

And I am damn sick of buying food and making all this stuff because my peeps request it and then they never eat. Seriously, EAT!!! It's not that hard. Open your mouth; insert food.

Why won't girls eat?

[ono]

they be shoppin'

[Joe Norris]

If he knows....why does she need a front?

"Hey, dbag, going out with my boyfriend, be back in the morning...tell your friends I'm at a sleepover with the girls, and we're gonna pillowfight"

[Hawker007]

Hard to really judge without knowing either of them, but at the same time there is always two sides to a story. Even if he is a major d-bag, I don't think I could be a part of helping with the affair scheming.

[filmfanatic24]

(15:31:21) Sherlock: I really really want to post in BBSB's thread, "Get a job."

[Jhawkz5]

Hard to really judge without knowing either of them, but at the same time there is always two sides to a story. Even if he is a major d-bag, I don't think I could be a part of helping with the affair scheming.


Gotta agree with 007. I don't care if he knows about it. She made a vow to be faithful to him and if she isn't going to, she needs to break the vow.

What would your thoughts be if it was the guy cheating and not the girl?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

My thoughts wouldn't be different if the girl knew about it and just turned the other way, as he is doing.

The reason he doesn't care is because he doesn't want to be shamed with a divorce, mostly because of his religious beliefs. So he guilts her into staying. If this arrangement works for them then who I am to judge?

There is a lot more to this story but I am not going to divulge those details here.

[Jhawkz5]

I get that he doesn't want to be shamed. But if she's unhappy and being abused, whether physically or emotionally, she's a fucking moron for not leaving.

[sweaterbydarwin]

3627

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

(15:31:21) Sherlock: I really really want to post in BBSB's thread, "Get a job."

You think people with jobs don't talk about their drama?

This place has been dead so I thought I would start a thread that would get discussion going. Excuse me that it worked.

Also...Sherlock, out of curiosity, what have you done today? Personally, I got three kids up, fed them breakfast, made their lunches, took them to school, came home and fed the baby, cleaned my kitchen, swept all my hardwoods, went for a 7-mile run, made three phone calls soliciting donations for a charity golf tournament, showered and got ready, and am getting ready to leave to volunteer for an hour in Ben's room before school gets out. Then I get to rush home, get the kids a snack and pack up their baseball gear, take them to practice, meet my husband at the YMCA with all three kids for swim lessons, and then go to the above mentioned birthday gathering. Clearly, I need a job to keep me busy. Really, your job comments and quips about my kids not getting attention gets really old.

[filmfanatic24]

You think people with jobs don't talk about their drama?

This place has been dead so I thought I would start a thread that would get discussion going. Excuse me that it worked.

Also...Sherlock, out of curiosity, what have you done today? Personally, I got three kids up, fed them breakfast, made their lunches, took them to school, came home and fed the baby, cleaned my kitchen, swept all my hardwoods, went for a 7-mile run, made three phone calls soliciting donations for a charity golf tournament, showered and got ready, and am getting ready to leave to volunteer for an hour in Ben's room before school gets out. Then I get to rush home, get the kids a snack and pack up their baseball gear, take them to practice, meet my husband at the YMCA with all three kids for swim lessons, and then go to the above mentioned birthday gathering. Clearly, I need a job to keep me busy. Really, your job comments and quips about my kids not getting attention gets really old.


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/yes-rudy1.gif

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I get that he doesn't want to be shamed. But if she's unhappy and being abused, whether physically or emotionally, she's a fucking moron for not leaving.

Sometimes when you are a grown up, you have to worry more about your kids and their welfare than your own. She isn't going to uproot her kids' lives until she has the financial ability to provide for them in a way that is consistent with what they have now.

I admire all of you guys' idealism. I used to have it too at your age.

[ono]

So it's best to raise the kids in a home where they have parents setting a shitty example of parenting and a relationship rather than risk uprooting their lives?

[Hawkish]

Why is samandben referred to as BBSB?

[Jhawkz5]

Uproot her kids without the financial ability to provide for them?

She's the mom. The courts are going to suck him dry, ESPECIALLY if he's being a doucher.

[filmfanatic24]

Why is samandben referred to as BBSB?



SHUT UP NOOB

[TheShocker]

She isn't going to uproot her kids' lives until she has the financial ability to provide for them in a way that is consistent with what they have now.



Oh, so her spoiled little brats can't survive without new clothes/toys every day? OH THE HORROR.

Pffft, rich white people problems.

[filmfanatic24]

Oh, so her spoiled little brats can't survive without new clothes/toys every day? OH THE HORROR.

Pffft, rich white people problems.


http://pics.livejournal.com/geekbynight/pic/0095r3t9

[Sherlock]

You think people with jobs don't talk about their drama?

This place has been dead so I thought I would start a thread that would get discussion going. Excuse me that it worked.

Also...Sherlock, out of curiosity, what have you done today? Personally, I got three kids up, fed them breakfast, made their lunches, took them to school, came home and fed the baby, cleaned my kitchen, swept all my hardwoods, went for a 7-mile run, made three phone calls soliciting donations for a charity golf tournament, showered and got ready, and am getting ready to leave to volunteer for an hour in Ben's room before school gets out. Then I get to rush home, get the kids a snack and pack up their baseball gear, take them to practice, meet my husband at the YMCA with all three kids for swim lessons, and then go to the above mentioned birthday gathering. Clearly, I need a job to keep me busy. Really, your job comments and quips about my kids not getting attention gets really old.

I woke up at 12:49pm CDT. I got out of bed, put on gym clothes, went and played basketball until 3:00pm CDT. I drove home in the rain (delightful) and grabbed a Gatorade. I then ate a sandwich, some chips, and logged onto my computer. I jumped into chat, read the board, saw an attention whoring thread, decided to comment on it in chat. Film then posted that here, the thread devolved, and here we stand. It's been a good day.

[Hawker007]

This relationship is really bizarre, and yes, those kids are already fucked anyways. This type of shit actually pisses me off and I don't even know them.

[sweaterbydarwin]

per my own experience, people get crazier and less rational the older they get. The social trappings of youth are thrown off, people begin to get a sense of their own mortality, and they straight drive the train off the tracks.

[Hawkish]

It's a legit question. FU.

[Joe Norris]

Just curious where you're going to fit "make Scott dinner" into your busy schedule

he's the real victim here

[Hawker007]

Sounds like you could use a nap Sherlock.

[Joe Norris]

It's a legit question. FU.

but you said you were a phog poster....

[filmfanatic24]

per my own experience, people get crazier and less rational the older they get. The social trappings of youth are thrown off, people begin to get a sense of their own mortality, and they straight drive the train off the tracks.


So BBSB = http://www.ragerlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Jay-Z-Kanye-West-Perform-Watch-The-Throne-Live-at-Staples-Center-Los-Angeles-CRAY.jpg

[ono]

Just curious where you're going to fit "make Scott dinner" into your busy schedule

he's the real victim here

don't worry, he's got leftover KFC.

speaking of, doesn't it piss you off when people get more fried chicken than they were supposed to?

[TheShocker]

I obviously don't know all the details but from what I've gathered from this thread I'm starting to think the husband is probably misunderstood here. The wife sounds like a huge bitch/whore and if he's mean to her it's probably because she deserved it. Not to mention the fact that she seems crazy as shit so any stories you hear from her are probably greatly exaggerated.

[Joe Norris]

don't worry, he's got leftover KFC.



Not if BDSM has anything to say about it!

[ono]

http://pics.livejournal.com/geekbynight/pic/0095r3t9

the whole premise of this thread reminds me of a potential episode of Mad Men.

BBSB = Betty Draper or Joan Harris?

[sweaterbydarwin]

not saying that, just that in general people in their 30's go off the deep end. I've seen more selfish and self destructive behavior from people my age than I ever saw when I was in my 20's. Unfortunately, I've dealt with this behavior by becoming a shut in and an internet legend instead of just making new friends.

[Joe Norris]

a valid question:

(16:11:16) filmfanatic24: when does Oobs swoop in and defend her?

[filmfanatic24]

a valid question:

(16:11:16) filmfanatic24: when does Oobs swoop in and defend her?



http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/189/858/some-men-meme-generator-some-men-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn-28c36e.jpg

[TheShocker]

not saying that, just that in general people in their 30's go off the deep end. I've seen more selfish and self destructive behavior from people my age than I ever saw when I was in my 20's. Unfortunately, I've dealt with this behavior by becoming a shut in and an internet legend instead of just making new friends.


I agree and it really is sad that BBSB's friend seems intent on destroying her family and that BBSB is helping her do it. I thought BBSB seemed like someone with strong morals but apparently I was way off.

[sweaterbydarwin]

they're likely both hellbent on destroying it but there's certainly more positive and less hurtful ways to get out of a marriage than infidelity. Most of the time, cheating is a passive aggressive means to divorce. I don't want to be the one who leaves so I'll make you leave me by doing the one thing that will end the relationship.


I agree and it really is sad that BBSB's friend seems intent on destroying her family and that BBSB is helping her do it.

[filmfanatic24]

BBSB's future with no friends


http://i41.tinypic.com/2zsy8gg.jpg

[gravyshanks]

You know who is batsh@t crazy? CHICKS!!!!


this is the story of my life.

[Hoopo]

The cosmic joke is the warm, wet, tight feeling of a vagina.

It's absolute proof that God can't possibly exist.

[gravyshanks]

what about a room-temperature, dry, floppy vagina? where's your god now?

[Hoopo]

what about a room-temperature, dry, floppy vagina? where's your god now?
Zackly.

[TheSinisterUrge]

You think people with jobs don't talk about their drama?

This place has been dead so I thought I would start a thread that would get discussion going. Excuse me that it worked.

Also...Sherlock, out of curiosity, what have you done today? Personally, I got three kids up, fed them breakfast, made their lunches, took them to school, came home and fed the baby, cleaned my kitchen, swept all my hardwoods, went for a 7-mile run, made three phone calls soliciting donations for a charity golf tournament, showered and got ready, and am getting ready to leave to volunteer for an hour in Ben's room before school gets out. Then I get to rush home, get the kids a snack and pack up their baseball gear, take them to practice, meet my husband at the YMCA with all three kids for swim lessons, and then go to the above mentioned birthday gathering. Clearly, I need a job to keep me busy. Really, your job comments and quips about my kids not getting attention gets really old.

I did all of that stuff, plus went to my job.

[Oobers]

a valid question:

(16:11:16) filmfanatic24: when does Oobs swoop in and defend her?

Which her?

[TheShocker]

Which her?


Probably the one that supports, and makes excuses for, her adultery-loving friends.

[Oobers]

I feel like this would be a great place for a Tannoudji appearance.

[Joe Norris]

who needs tanny? we have our very own Shocker

[filmfanatic24]

http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-04-Buffy.gif

[TheShocker]

I know people probably think I'm trolling here but I'm being dead serious. The behavior of BBSB and her friend is disgusting.

How does BBSB know that the husband is cool with it? Because that's what her friend told her so? Yeah, real reliable source there.

She sounds like a crazy, cheating, lying whore and the "emotional abuse" from her husband is probably just him expecting his wife to respect her vows and to act like his fucking wife instead of her acting like some coked-up party whore that's out banging the entire fucking city while he's at home with the kids. Yeah, what a fucking jerk. He's getting cheated on and his family is about to be destroyed but clearly he deserves it because he doesn't approve of his whore-wife's partying lifestyle.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

Just curious where you're going to fit "make Scott dinner" into your busy schedule

he's the real victim here

Haven't you read all my posts about how I always double meals if it is something that can be frozen? It's for days like this.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I know people probably think I'm trolling here but I'm being dead serious. The behavior of BBSB and her friend is disgusting.

How does BBSB know that the husband is cool with it? Because that's what her friend told her so? Yeah, real reliable source there.

She sounds like a crazy, cheating, lying whore and the "emotional abuse" from her husband is probably just him expecting his wife to respect her vows and to act like his fucking wife instead of her acting like some coked-up party whore that's out banging the entire fucking city while he's at home with the kids. Yeah, what a fucking jerk. He's getting cheated on and his family is about to destroyed but clearly he deserves it because he doesn't approve of his whore-wife's partying lifestyle.

How do you know he isn't cheating on her?

Nobody is paying attention to the fact that I said there were more details to this story that I wasn't going to divulge.

And fwiw, this thread went off way on a tangent that I wasn't expecting.

It was more about my friends always saying they want to eat and then they just pick at things. (SERIOUSLY....WHY WON'T ANYONE COMMENT ON THAT???) Not me defending myself for going to get my toes painted with my friend before she meets her boyfriend. You guys are so easily riled up.

[Hoopo]

I know people probably think I'm trolling here but I'm being dead serious. The behavior of BBSB and her friend is disgusting.

How does BBSB know that the husband is cool with it? Because that's what her friend told her so? Yeah, real reliable source there.

She sounds like a crazy, cheating, lying whore and the "emotional abuse" from her husband is probably just him expecting his wife to respect her vows and to act like his fucking wife instead of her acting like some coked-up party whore that's out banging the entire fucking city while he's at home with the kids. Yeah, what a fucking jerk. He's getting cheated on and his family is about to be destroyed but clearly he deserves it because he doesn't approve of his whore-wife's partying lifestyle.
This is some woman quality crazy shit. Props, Shocky.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I did all of that stuff, plus went to my job.

Right. But Sherlock isn't continually calling you out on not having a job like he does me. That joke is more overplayed that enfuego's big dong.

[Sherlock]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA.

This is the first time I recall saying, "get a job."

I have one.

[TheShocker]

How do you know he isn't cheating on her?




Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your actions.

[QT4KU]

I was asked about my opinion on this thread (I guess because I'm female?) and I must admit my initial reaction was WTF? I can see your frustration with the Starvation Sisters but I'm not sure how you can be frustrated with the friend the party is for. How you can throw a party for someone knowing they are using it as a front to go sleep around on her husband is beyond me. If she chooses to do that, it's on her but I wouldn't want any part of covering for her. I don't care if her husband knows he's married to a cheating whore or not. Excusing the situation because he is abusive is just that, an excuse. If she's really your friend you should be helping her get out of the relationship. I'd do everything in my power to help her leave him, not help her get sex on the side. If she chooses to stay in the abusive relationship, that's on her, you can't force her to leave but you can provide her options to help her leave and provide her support as she makes the decision to leave and with the process itself. But by knowingly letting her use you to cheat not only are you supporting her fucking around but you are supporting her decision to stay in an abusive relationship that isn't just detrimental to her but to her kids as well.

Now, I know I don't KNOW all the details of the situations and the ins and outs and what not but having volunteered and done and internship with battered and abused women, I know there is no situation in the world where I would condone, support and cover for a woman, ESPECIALLY one I called my friend, to cheat on her husband and remain in an abusive relationship with him. But that's just me. Maybe I'm just a terrible friend and even worse female, but that's just how I feel about the situation.

[Hoopo]

Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your actions.
Girlfriend!

[gravyshanks]

Oh no you di-int!

[QT4KU]

How do you know he isn't cheating on her?

You know as well as I do, two wrongs don't make a right. If he is cheating that's even more reason to help her get out of the relationship.

[TheShocker]

Oh what a shock, the most morally-deprived person on the board (Hoopo, duh) supports BBSB's decision to help her friend commit adultery. I hope BBSB isn't a religious person because there isn't a God out there that would approve of her actions in aiding and abetting a mortal sin.

[filmfanatic24]

http://butt2chair.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/wha-happen-copy.jpg

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

Who said I was "throwing" her the party?

This is way more than I need to get into.....but fwiw, she is not a close a friend of mine. She is in my circle enough that I know the details of what is going on but I am certainly not somebody the she confides in and comes to for advice.

Also, do you think that if I don't go to her party, she won't meet her boyfriend? None of us could go and she would still do it. My bff IS close with her and when I told her today that I didn't feel like going to the hassle of all of this tonight (mostly b/c I have a lot of stuff to do, my husband had been out of town, etc.), she told me that she felt we needed to make a big deal out of said friend's birthday and show her our support for HOW she is trying to get out of her marriage (and she does have a plan for that...but with three kids to support, you have to look before you jump). It's not like we are helping her get her hotel room for the night and sneaking her around in our minivans. The friend is in a really bad place emotionally and we are trying to show her our support as her friends by getting together to celebrate her birthday (in a very non-party atmosphere, which was intentionally chosen) and to help her figure out what she is going to do to get her life on track.

For people who actually know so little about the situation, you all sure have a lot of opinions about how YOU would handle it.

[Sherlock]

Well that's because there is a morally right way to handle it, and then how you are handling it.

[Jhawkz5]

I told you, having 3 kids to support is a fuckin cop out.

She is the mother. She will be able to get all the child support she fuckin needs and then some from the courts.

[Oobers]

There's a soap opera writer out there somewhere that needs to read this thread.

[Jhawkz5]

GRAVY - This is your chance for a breakthrough in your writing career.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I told you, having 3 kids to support is a fuckin cop out.

She is the mother. She will be able to get all the child support she fuckin needs and then some from the courts.

She will get 50-60%. I know I couldn't make ends meet if all of the sudden I got half of my husband's income.

I have had two good friends go thru a divorce in the last few years and they are all struggling big time.

Life isn't black and white as you think it is when you are in your 20s.

[Jhawkz5]

WSDB needs to chime in on this.

ETA: Are they spending money on new shoes and clothes instead of essentials?

[Sherlock]

You couldn't make ends meet? Sorry that you wouldn't get to live in a two story house with all the amenities and you might have to go back to work and might not get to send Sam and Ben to every sports camp they want to go to and maybe, just maybe you would have to sacrifice some excesses in order to "make ends meet".

You've never wanted for anything, that much is obvious.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

Oh what a shock, the most morally-deprived person on the board (Hoopo, duh) supports BBSB's decision to help her friend commit adultery. I hope BBSB isn't a religious person because there isn't a God out there that would approve of her actions in aiding and abetting a mortal sin.

Well, I wouldn't describe myself as "religious"...mostly because I hate that word. But I know that my God wouldn't want me to not support my friend and go to her party when she needs a friend the most.

[QT4KU]

Who said I was "throwing" her the party?

This is way more than I need to get into.....but fwiw, she is not a close a friend of mine. She is in my circle enough that I know the details of what is going on but I am certainly not somebody the she confides in and comes to for advice.

Also, do you think that if I don't go to her party, she won't meet her boyfriend? None of us could go and she would still do it. My bff IS close with her and when I told her today that I didn't feel like going to the hassle of all of this tonight (mostly b/c I have a lot of stuff to do, my husband had been out of town, etc.), she told me that she felt we needed to make a big deal out of said friend's birthday and show her our support for HOW she is trying to get out of her marriage (and she does have a plan for that...but with three kids to support, you have to look before you jump). It's not like we are helping her get her hotel room for the night and sneaking her around in our minivans. The friend is in a really bad place emotionally and we are trying to show her our support as her friends by getting together to celebrate her birthday (in a very non-party atmosphere, which was intentionally chosen) and to help her figure out what she is going to do to get her life on track.

For people who actually know so little about the situation, you all sure have a lot of opinions about how YOU would handle it.

I will respectfully agree to disagree on the approach to HOW her circle of friends is trying to help her leave the relationship but I'm happy to hear she is at least considering leaving and wish you all the best in helping her to successfully leave the relationship when she finally begins the process.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

You couldn't make ends meet? Sorry that you wouldn't get to live in a two story house with all the amenities and you might have to go back to work and might not get to send Sam and Ben to every sports camp they want to go to and maybe, just maybe you would have to sacrifice some excesses in order to "make ends meet".

You've never wanted for anything, that much is obvious.

Are you fucking kidding me? My mom was a single mom. I wanted for plenty at times growing up. Which is EXACTLY why I have tried to give my kids all the things I DIDN'T have. Seriously, Sherlock, you say some of the stupidest things and make the most ridiculous judgments on people that you have never even met.

[The42Yardstick]

i was told that ajc would have sammiches waiting for me in the lobby of this thread

i'm suing this site for false advertising

[Oobers]

Obviously AJC doesn't have a sugar daddy to pay for those sammiches like BBSB's friend.

[gravyshanks]

GRAVY - This is your chance for a breakthrough in your writing career.

I see it as a meeting the Morality Club in some empty cock ring warehouse, co-chaired by Shocky and Shirls, with QT on skype.

[Sherlock]

Are you fucking kidding me? My mom was a single mom. I wanted for plenty at times growing up. Which is EXACTLY why I have tried to give my kids all the things I DIDN'T have. Seriously, Sherlock, you say some of the stupidest things and make the most ridiculous judgments on people that you have never even met.

You say I judge you, when you have done nothing but judge everything I've done on this board. Everything is, "Sherlock, you're dumb and young. You don't know anything." Well let me tell you one thing: age doesn't bring wisdom or a good sense of reality. I think that this thread shows that to be true.

Maybe you should try to listen to the younger generation instead of writing everything they say off. I'm not stupid, and maybe I see the world as more black and white than you. But maybe if you saw the world as a little more black and white, you wouldn't come running to an internet message board in search of absolution for your sins.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I will respectfully agree to disagree on the approach to HOW her circle of friends is trying to help her leave the relationship but I'm happy to hear she is at least considering leaving and wish you all the best in helping her to successfully leave the relationship when she finally begins the process.

So out of curiosity, how would you help her out?

Like I said earlier in the thread, I didn't even find out until this morning that she was going to meet her guy after our little get-together tonight. Should I not go? Blow off her party that I have committed to attending to make a point? I am not going to turn my back on our friendship b/c I think she is going about this the wrong way. That would make me a terrible friend.

Shocker has turned me going to get my toenails painted with her into me "aiding and abetting" her and you all are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

Whatever works to stir discussion around here, I guess.

[gravyshanks]

Well let me tell you one thing: age doesn't bring wisdom or a good sense of reality. I think that this thread shows that to be true.

Maybe you should try to listen to the younger generation instead of writing everything they say off. I'm not stupid, and maybe I see the world as more black and white than you. But maybe if you saw the world as a little more black and white, you wouldn't come running to an internet message board in search of absolution for your sins.

fucking set this to music and we've got ourselves a top ten rock anthem.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoRb8hxwluE&feature=related

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

You say I judge you, when you have done nothing but judge everything I've done on this board. Everything is, "Sherlock, you're dumb and young. You don't know anything." Well let me tell you one thing: age doesn't bring wisdom or a good sense of reality. I think that this thread shows that to be true.

Maybe you should try to listen to the younger generation instead of writing everything they say off. I'm not stupid, and maybe I see the world as more black and white than you. But maybe if you saw the world as a little more black and white, you wouldn't come running to an internet message board in search of absolution for your sins.

Sherlock...EVERYONE rails on you for being "dumb and young". You do it yourself. I am not judging you when I say that...I am just going along with the crowd and the joke.

And I certainly don't come running to wtw in search of absolution of my sins. My sins are plenty and I am aware of that (as are everybody's). I don't need a message board to tell me one way or the other.

[Oobers]

Is this the appropriate time for a "PIITB" mention?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I see it as a meeting the Morality Club in some empty cock ring warehouse, co-chaired by Shocky and Shirls, with QT on skype.

Who is up for discussion in the first meeting? Me, you, or Hoopo? I hope it's Hoopo. Surely he has the best stories.

[gravyshanks]

hoopo has recovered from his brush with teh AIDZ and now preaches how to run from tempting, tempting ladyparts.

[Hoopo]

Marally depraved? Frisky, yeah, but you're flirtatiously harsh, Shocky. Perhaps you need to mastubate even more.

[Sherlock]

Sherlock...EVERYONE rails on you for being "dumb and young". You do it yourself. I am not judging you when I say that...I am just going along with the crowd and the joke.

And I certainly don't come running to wtw in search of absolution of my sins. My sins are plenty and I am aware of that (as are everybody's). I don't need a message board to tell me one way or the other.

And yet you post a thread about every little tiny detail of your life.

"OH NO! Sam might be really good at sports! But we paid him money for it. Is that bad?"

"Scott brought home more chicken than I wanted. He should have just gone back and said, 'I only wanted this much'. Am I a bad wife?"

"My friend is using us as a front to cheat on her husband! I'm going to continue to help her! Wait, why is everyone saying I'm wrong? HE'S ABUSIVE!!!!!"

Anyone else see a pattern?

[sweaterbydarwin]

no doubt nothing is black and white, even more-so when kids, houses and jobs are at stake. In general, I'm a live and let live type of person as long as you don't involve me in your bullshit. If I have to lie to someone's spouse, even if I hate that person, that's a dealbreaker. I'll support you in any way I can but don't ever put me in that position because you need some strange.

[Hoopo]

This thread is like group sex with fatties.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

And yet you post a thread about every little tiny detail of your life.

"OH NO! Sam might be really good at sports! But we paid him money for it. Is that bad?"

"Scott brought home more chicken than I wanted. He should have just gone back and said, 'I only wanted this much'. Am I a bad wife?"

"My friend is using us as a front to cheat on her husband! I'm going to continue to help her! Wait, why is everyone saying I'm wrong? HE'S ABUSIVE!!!!!"

Anyone else see a pattern?

Do you realize that it is these stupid posts about the minute details of my life that actually get conversation going around here?

As a moderator I try to come up with threads that will get people talking. And so what I do is take something out of my life and try to into turn into a general subject. To do that I give the example from my life....and then I always say, "do you have an example of this?" or something of that sort.

99% of the time it works. Face it, it's my attention-whoring and trolling that gets people talking.

More often than not, things get blown out of proportion but I am ok with that mostly because I don't give a shit what people on here think about me (with the exception of my real-life friends, but they know the difference anyway).

[Oobers]

And now we've hit the point of breaking the "fourth wall" of WtW. Sherlock shut up, this is entertaining. Stop trying to chide BBSB for sharing a story with us. A delicious story of middle aged anorexic adulterers who enjoy throwing parties.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

And now we've hit the point of breaking the "fourth wall" of WtW. Sherlock shut up, this is entertaining. Stop trying to chide BBSB for sharing a story with us. A delicious story of middle aged anorexic adulterers who enjoy throwing parties.

Thank you, Oobs. All along I just wanted to talk about the damn anorexia. Because my friend fell for somebody else as she is trying to get out of her terrible marriage (and her husband does the same) really wasn't the point.

Regardless, this is the last time you guys get anything juicy out of me (thatswhatshesaid).

Have fun with all your video game threads. Those things are SPICY!!!

[sweaterbydarwin]

I think you hang around anorexic whores to feel better about yourself. Have you played Mass Effect 3 yet?

[Sherlock]

I'm going to set the O/U on how long before an S&B life thread comes on here at 1 week. Any takers?

[Hoopo]

Right now would be the perfect time to tell us if you shave that thang.

[gravyshanks]

I'm going to set the O/U on how long before an S&B life thread comes on here at 1 week. Any takers?

you'd be so lucky to have some extra fried chicken in your life.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I think you hang around anorexic whores to feel better about yourself. Have you played Mass Effect 3 yet?

No, actually they make me feel fat....so definitely not better about myself.

And we only play Plants VS. Zombies around here.

[Oobers]

you'd be so lucky to have some extra fried chicken in your life.

8th best euphemism for secks evar?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I'm going to set the O/U on how long before an S&B life thread comes on here at 1 week. Any takers?

Can I set the O/U on how long it takes you to tell me that pay more attention to my kids in that thread at 23 minutes?

[Sherlock]

Take the under. Trust me.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

Right now would be the perfect time to tell us if you shave that thang.

That would be BLATANT attention-whoring, Hoopo!!!

You'll just have to guess.

[AJC]

Obviously AJC doesn't have a sugar daddy to pay for those sammiches like BBSB's friend.

Well 42 did ask me if he's supposed to pay me for sex... so he can pay for sammiches, too. :|

[Oobers]

That would be BLATANT attention-whoring, Hoopo!!!

You'll just have to guess.

It will be a question on the next game of Sheep, count on it.

[Oobers]

Well 42 did ask me if he's supposed to pay me for sex... so he can pay for sammiches, too. :|

Obviously I'm not hanging out in chat enough.

[Sherlock]

TBH, I really just want to know if this thread is similar to when you go in to the doctor's to ask about a "friend" that has a rash on his genitals.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

TBH, I really just want to know if this thread is similar to when you go in to the doctor's to ask about a "friend" that has a rash on his genitals.

I guess you will find out if in 6 months I tell you all that I am leaving my husband and running away with Hoopo and Gravy because they are the only ones that understand me.

But did you take care of that rash?

[Hoopo]

That would be BLATANT attention-whoring, Hoopo!!!

You'll just have to guess.
Trimmed doesn't count.

[gravyshanks]

Well 42 did ask me if he's supposed to pay me for sex... so he can pay for sammiches, too. :|

please make a note of this in the WTW movie thread.

[gravyshanks]

I guess you will find out if in 6 months I tell you all that I am leaving my husband and running away with Hoopo and Gravy because they are the only ones that understand me.


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[Hoopo]

You can have firsties, Mssr. Shanks.

[Sherlock]

I guess you will find out if in 6 months I tell you all that I am leaving my husband and running away with Hoopo and Gravy because they are the only ones that understand me.

But did you take care of that rash?

It was my friend

[gravyshanks]

scrote rash? that's rough.

[guernica]

Live and let live, hussies.

bdsm, if Scott doesn't eat all the food, send some this way. I'm not much for cooking.

[TheShocker]

Shocker has turned me going to get my toenails painted with her into me "aiding and abetting" her and you all are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.


So, when you go paint each other's toenails and bedazzle each other's vaginas with diamonds (or whatever you rich housewives do) are you going to attempt to persuade her to not cheat on her husband this evening or are you going to say nothing like a "good friend"? By saying nothing you're condoning the behavior and your sin of omission is just as bad as the sin of commission that your friend is committing.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

So, when you go paint each other's toenails and bedazzle each other's vaginas with diamonds (or whatever you rich housewives do) are you going to attempt to persuade her to not cheat on her husband this evening or are you going to say nothing like a "good friend"? By saying nothing you're condoning the behavior and your sin of omission is just as bad as the sin of commission that your friend is committing.

Of course I condone it. I have always told her she needs to get her life on track. She is very aware how we all feel (which is why she hasn't come out and said why she is bailing early tonight).

And we use rubies on the vag. We are poor rich housewives. Again, you are judging without enough information.

[ono]

I heart this thread.

[KVN638]

I didn't read all this thread... too much estrogen between BBSB and Sheryl.


But the argument about staying in a shitty relationship "for the kids" is fucking hilarious. My parents aren't divorced, but I know plenty of people who said they hated their lives before their parents got divorced because their home life was awful and awkward. They must be learning great values of marriage when their mom has an open affair and watch their father emotionally abuse his cheating wife. You can think kids are naive all you want, but they pick up on that shit.


And she's a fucking idiot for cheating on her husband and letting him know about it while trying to find a way out. That will be used against her and she won't be getting nearly as much as she anticipates. If he knows and allows it to happen he's probably having a private investigator follow her ass around and record her phone calls and texts through the company(which he probably pays the bill, so he can). I'm going to laugh when this guy divorces her and leaves her with nothing and goes and pounds strange with the money he doesn't pay her. How the fuck are you tellign her to continue to cheat while he knows if shes thinking about a divorce.


Tell your friend to sack up and leave or to quit fucking cheating. She is ruining any argument she has. If she's planning on leaving him she needs to start collecting shit for court ASAP, b/c if he knows she's cheating and he does nothing, you can bet your ass he's covering himself and collecting evidence on her.

[guernica]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jOEAufDQ4

[dewarsrocks]

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[ICThawk]

Anyone who says that "staying together for the kids" is bullshit doesn't have kids. Or at least doesn't rate them high enough IMO. Obviously there are certain reasons to justify changing their lives and getting divorced but don't glass over it like its an easy decision.

Also to those who made comments to the "can't make ends meet" are hilarious. While its possible to make ends meet on half your normal income, that's a REALLY drastic life change. Does switching kids schools, removing them from all friends, changing their diets, cutting all extra curricular activities damage them more than sticking around does?

Now, I obviously have HUGE issues with the affair, however I have no problem with S&B going to the party. She isn't hosting it, she didn't set the time limit, she is going to a party to see her friends. Would you guys skip a party if you knew some guy there was having an affair, or would you go anyway and hang with your friends?

There are two HUGE WTF moments in this thread...

1.) QT posted on WtW???

2.) Why haven't I been able to taste these banging appetizers?

[ono]

I don't have kids, but I do understand staying together for the kids argument. But to me, putting the kids through a divorce is still a much, much, much better idea than subjecting the kids to having to witness a shitty relationship day in and day out. Not only will that make the current family miserable, this will impact their idea of a healthy relationship down the road. To me, it's best to cut bait early than drag it out when everyone is miserable.

[ICThawk]

I don't have kids, but I do understand staying together for the kids argument. But to me, putting the kids through a divorce is still a much, much, much better idea than subjecting the kids to having to witness a shitty relationship day in and day out. Not only will that make the current family miserable, this will impact their idea of a healthy relationship down the road. To me, it's best to cut bait early than drag it out when everyone is miserable.

It's a matter of degree of harm. A nasty nasty divorce full of screaming and backstabbing and in court testimony from children can be way more devastating than "mom and dad don't talk". Also depends on the age of the kids. If they are almost out of school it plays a factor. If they are fairly young it plays a factor. If my kids had been older (late elementary to middle school) it definitely would have impacted my decision to get divorced.

ETA: If I had stayed together my kids would have never known there was an issue. I made it a point to shield them from everything I could. I find it incredibly selfish of parents to put their needs over their children's.

[Hawker007]

The problem with the party ICT, is that the whole reason it was put together was so this chick would have an excuse/cover to go fuck her "boyfriend". Ya, I probably wouldn't go to it, if it was one of my friends doing this and I had complete knowledge of it.

[KVN638]

It's a matter of degree of harm. A nasty nasty divorce full of screaming and backstabbing and in court testimony from children can be way more devastating than "mom and dad don't talk". Also depends on the age of the kids. If they are almost out of school it plays a factor. If they are fairly young it plays a factor. If my kids had been older (late elementary to middle school) it definitely would have impacted my decision to get divorced.

ETA: If I had stayed together my kids would have never known there was an issue. I made it a point to shield them from everything I could. I find it incredibly selfish of parents to put their needs over their children's.

I thought we were talking about this specific relationship.

The mom is cheating on her husband and her husband is emotionally abusive to her. That isn't "mommy and daddy don't talk."


The woman is as much fault as the man at this point. Using a party meant for someone else as an excuse to go fuck is lame. It's putting your affair above your friends, or if the party is for her, then she's completely unappreciative of what her friends did for her. Shows some crappy values on her part either way. She is unappreciative and puts her friends in an awful situation.

[Sherlock]

I wonder what BBSB did today instead of a job.

[filmfanatic24]

I wonder what BBSB did today instead of a job.



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[GardArmighty]

what about a room-temperature, dry, floppy vagina? where's your god now?

Floppy as in labiaslack floppy, or as in Greg Paulus floppy?

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

The problem with the party ICT, is that the whole reason it was put together was so this chick would have an excuse/cover to go fuck her "boyfriend". Ya, I probably wouldn't go to it, if it was one of my friends doing this and I had complete knowledge of it.

You are twisting my words. The party was put together because it was her birthday. It's not like the people who put it together (not me) did it as a way to cover for her. It was only the morning of the party when she said she was going to have to bail early that we figured out it was because she wanted to meet up with the other guy. Somewhere along the line (through you and Shocker mostly), this got turned into me and my friends "helping" her carry out her plan, which was not the case at all. And if you recall, I was actually MAD when I found out she was going to be meeting him after the party. If I condoned it, why would have I cared?

fwiw, I don't think she met him last night. We ended up convincing her to go out with us after the pedicure party and get a few beers. By then it was too late for her to do anything anyway. And not one time during the whole night was this guy mentioned. All of you would have been so disappointed with how NOT scandalous the night turned out.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

I wonder what BBSB did today instead of a job.

I am getting ready to go to Costco. Do you need me to pick you up anything? Perhaps a mega-sized box of tampons?

[Hawker007]

Not sure how I am twisting it, here is what you said:

And the whole reason this birthday honoree wants this party is so that she can bail out at 8pm and go see her boyfriend, b/c her husband is a controlling and abusive ass. So basically she is just using us a front to get out of the house and then is leaving.


​Just saying, I'd be like, fuck that. Find your own alibi if you want to go cheat on your husband.

[Sherlock]

I am getting ready to go to Costco. Do you need me to pick you up anything? Perhaps a mega-sized box of tampons?

I'm running dangerously low on Cheez-Its.

[ono]

BBSB be shoppin'

[filmfanatic24]

If Scott was emotionally abusive, would you stay in the relationship? Remember, he makes a lot of money.

[Joe Norris]

I haven't read the entire thread...lots of words...so if you answered it, I apologize

but why does she need a cover if everyone but the guy's church knows about the "affair"

at this point, it's basically just an open marriage

[KVN638]

I don't know if anyone accused you of helping her, but you keep justifying her actions and pretending she's not being:

A) a crappy friend
B) a crappy wife
C) a bad person in general from A and B combined.


Tell us she's a skank and we'll forget it all.

[ono]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BFHYtZlAU

[IceHawkE]

Late to the party once again, but here it goes . . . .

First off assuuming that the BBSB's friend is in a psychologically abusive relationship, having an affair is certainly not the way to deal with this. However, being in an abusive relationship, especially a psychological one, can alter a person's idea of what is logical. They justify to themselves that well this person is doing this to me, so I am going to do this to them because perhaps they now have control over some aspect of the relationship. To the point that the wife should just leave, that's naive to think it's that simple - at least in the mind of the person being abused. I saw this first hand with my mom. She had more than enough reasons to leave my dad over a course of 30 years and it ended up costing her life.

With regards to the children, I agree that kids pick up on this stuff pretty quickly especially as they become teenagers. No matter what the family crisis is it's better to be honest as possible and practical with children regardless of their age. In our family, the need to address a particular difficult situation has come up twice. Both times they were dealt with up front and honestly. The first time was very tough, the second wasn't nearly as difficult. I think a lot of times parents believe that if they tell their children that something has happened that tears at the fabric of the family that somehow they will be looked at by their children as being a "bad parent" or a failure so they continue on with the charade. The reality is that children, while they might not completely understand what and why it has happened, will eventually respect HOW it was handled.

There will most certainly be a time in their lives in which they will need to stand up and deal with similar issues. It's the parents' responsibility to set the example of how to properly deal with them. Failing to do so causes far more long term harm than it does by just dealing with the situation up front.

With regard to this particular situation, I certainly don't know enough about it but if I would never knowlingly condone an affair for any reason. On the other hand, the notion that not getting involved is a sin of omission and is the same as having an affair is pure bullshit. It's not even close to being the same.

[KVN638]

What's this flousy look like? Can we play spot the crazy in this thread?

[Joe Norris]

I'm guessing 3rd chair from the left (re: facebook)

[Hawker007]

Has to be Joe, has to be.

[Joe Norris]

Don't know if that last name is Jewish though

[filmfanatic24]

I'm guessing 3rd chair from the left (re: facebook)



Bingo

[KVN638]

Joe that's the picture i was hoping she'd post. Also guess it's her.

[Sherlock]

I must say I concur with the above choice.

[Hawker007]

It is very Jewish.

[KVN638]

I'm guessing the one between the crazy and BBSB is the one who isn't eating.

[filmfanatic24]

Is this the husband in question?


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[kcjhawks4]

the whole premise of this thread reminds me of a potential episode of Mad Men.

BBSB = Betty Draper or Joan Harris?

BBSB is the redhead neighbor and the chick cheating is Betty. If the gender's were reversed, Joan would be "Betty's" boyfriend.

[samandbendrivemetodrink]

You guys suck. It's funny because somebody actually tagged me in a photo last night and I took it down and used the excuse that I didn't like it because it made me look fat. The only reason I untagged myself is because I didn't want those of you on my facebook to see it. The new one was tagged this morning when I was offline for an hour grocery shopping. It's too late now.

And you guys are all wrong anyway.

Please just drop it. There is way too much conjecture in this thread.

[kcjhawks4]

You guys suck. It's funny because somebody actually tagged me in a photo last night and I took it down and used the excuse that I didn't like it because it made me look fat. The only reason I untagged myself is because I didn't want those of you on my facebook to see it. The new one was tagged this morning when I was offline for an hour grocery shopping. It's too late now.

And you guys are all wrong anyway.

Please just drop it. There is way too much conjecture in this thread.

What does conjecture mean?

[filmfanatic24]

http://images.landofnod.com/is/image/LandOfNod/3710941_FireStationToy_F308?$web_family$